Norm Ornstein discusses the impact of Urban Debate in public schools and how Urban debate brings public school kids into the debate world. Ornstein says, "Urban debate brings public school kids into the debate world, it’s a wonderful thing…We’ve funded for 3 years now a Matthew Ornstein Summer Debate Institute for kids from the Washington area. We’ve had 250 kids come through from 6th grade through high school. Some of them arrive, they’ve never spoken in front of anyone before, by the time a week is up they are up there vigorously debating and knowing something about a subject matter. It changes their lives. We’re going to have a tournament at the end of the month. We now have 60 schools involved in the area and they do these tournaments. We’re trying to get Michelle Obama to one of them. It’s immensely gratifying."